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Post by geocrass on Nov 15, 2015 12:58:57 GMT
Hi All. I just went to Incepta - met Asif Mostafa, Alimul Razi (Parvez?) and their boss: Dr.E.H. Arefin Ahmed. Great service! The price I paid was just under 145,000 BD Taka for 168 tablets (24 week treatment). That is about 863 Taka per tablet. But, of course the price can vary because of amount purchased or currency exchange rates. The point is this: at about USD 11 per tablet, Twinvir is being sold at the best price anywhere that I have heard. They accept a photo copy of a prescription from a foreign country. The will also try to help those who only have a doctor's letter stating that the bearer has chronic hepatitis C. They will even help those who are acting as a courier for 1 or 2 other people.
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Post by mike on Nov 19, 2015 3:51:45 GMT
Thanks for Making all clear Pavez.Do I assume that if someone approaches you personally in Dakka and wants 5 12wk lots of Twinvir,the price will be us $929 for each 12 wk lot.
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Post by thurl on Nov 20, 2015 15:01:46 GMT
I paid 72,408 Bangladesh taka for 12 weeks supply of Twinvir (generic harvoni) from Incepta in Bangladesh earlier this week. You can convert that to pounds sterling or US dollars on xe currency calculator site. However, when weighing up treatment options I imagine most people will be interested in the total cost of the package, which include for example travel costs to Bangladesh. I would give details of my return airfare from UK to Bangladesh, and other costs like hotel for overnight stay but not sure what forum rules permit. Suffice to say, if travelling from the UK I think you can at least double that figure plus a bit more when visa, hotel, insurance and transport costs are included. Nevertheless, I don't begrudge a penny of it. I think it money very well spent in return for a 90% plus chance of achieving SVR12, and also when compared with the price of the equivalent drug here in UK
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Post by Alsdad on Nov 20, 2015 20:15:52 GMT
Hi thurl, thanks for the info. Feel free to post any associated info (hotels, flights, minders/helpers, etc). It's all useful to those thinking of following in your footsteps.
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Post by zippydedodah on Nov 22, 2015 2:53:35 GMT
i flew from Chiang Mai to Bangladesh for about 425 USD, round trip. I chose a high end hotel because of my security concerns... so for a 1 night stay it was 225 USD plus meals Airport pick-up 18 USD Visa on Arrival - 51 USD Private car with additional security to go to Incepta - 30 USD Return to airport - 18 USD
24 week course of Twinvir - 1860
add it all up... about 2700 USD...door to door Door to door time frame: left CM at 7am on Saturday, was back in CM 8pm Sunday.
hope that helps someone
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Post by parvez on Nov 22, 2015 3:29:55 GMT
Yes Mike you are right.
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Post by darbara on Nov 22, 2015 18:31:34 GMT
Please keep visiting here Parvez, you will help a lot of people.
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Post by parvez on Nov 23, 2015 8:09:41 GMT
I visit regularly. Feel free to contact with me.
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Post by thurl on Nov 24, 2015 12:00:33 GMT
Just to elaborate on my previous post about travelling to Bangladesh to buy Twinvir (generic harvoni), I think my total cost, including the med's themselves, travel and hotel etc, was about £1570, (about US$2400 assuming an approximate exchange rate of about $1.50 dollar to the pound although this varies day-to-day).
This cost was for 12 weeks supply of Twinvir, not 24 like Zippy, which I think is why my cost is a bit lower than his even though I had a longer journey.
Specific breakdown: Return flight London Gatwick to Bangladesh £550 Travel home to Gatwick and back £80 Travel insurance £30 Hotel in Dhaka 1 night £145 (hotels in Dhaka are a bit expensive) Twinvir 12 wks £620 Airport pick up and drop off, $18 each way, say, £25 Transport by hotel-arranged taxi to Incepta and back £30 Miscellaneous - e.g. unlocked phone and Bangladesh SIM card, visa on arrival $51 (say £34), travel socket adaptor and meals £90
Total £1570
In terms of timescale, my flight left Gatwick at 9.40am on Saturday and I arrived back in Gatwick at 6.40am on Tuesday. So away 3 days with one night stay in Dhaka.
Parvez and Asif at Incepta were very helpful and efficient - it was a pleasure to do business with them. I'm very grateful to them and to Incepta for making this pioneering treatment available at an affordable price
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Post by jolie on Nov 25, 2015 20:22:41 GMT
Mesochem API's 12 weeks tx worth of Sofo + Dac £835. Digital scales from Amazon £19.99, empty capsules £4.99 - you can have vegy caps if vegetarian! Bank money transfer fee £25,
total costs: under £885 for 12 weeks tx.
time; on average delivery 4-5 days from China by Fedex tracked service.
Great Deal ! if too sick to travel & wish for hassle free, most professional & fast service.
No script, nor anything else required.
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Post by thurl on Nov 26, 2015 13:32:09 GMT
Hi Jolie, thanks for that info– that's a good price you got.
However, for me, even taking into account the price, travelling abroad to get the med's was overall the better option.
Different treatment options will appeal to different people according to their personal inclinations and circumstances. Price is certainly a factor, but it is not the only one. In case it is of interest to you, or anyone else, I elaborate below why I chose to go to Bangladesh.
First, although you were not to know this, we are not quite comparing like with like here. I should have pointed that I am Geno 1a (with high viral load). I believe (although don't quote me, I'm not a doctor) that for Geno 1a the best treatment combination is Sofosbuvir and Ledipasvir. According to current info from Dr Freeman on his Hep C site:“If you approach a supplier like Beijing Mesochem you will find their prices are currently as shown as .. for 12 weeks treatment: Sofosbuvir+Ledipasvir $1980 USD Sofosbuvir+Daclatasvir $1105 USD.”
So even if, like you, I had gone to Mesochem, the Sofosbuvir + Ledopasvir combination that I need is more expensive than the Sofosbuvir + Daclatasvir combination that you need, and that you bought. For 12 weeks supply of Sofosbuvir+Ledipasvir combination I would have paid Mesochem $1980 USD (say £1320) which means that, adding in the bits and pieces you mention for compounding the APIs, I would have paid in total £1370. Now this is £200 less than the £1570 I paid to go to Bangladesh to buy Twinvir (which is Sofosbuvir+Ledipasvir) but it means the bulk of the price difference between what you paid and what I paid is, I believe, attributable to the difference in the med's we each bought, and not to the fact that I went abroad whereas you had the med's mailed to you.
As to this additional price I paid for travelling to BD rather than, for example, using Mesochem to mail the APIs to me, this was for me well justified by a number of other factors. First, the fact that the med's are ready to take and do not need to be compounded. I am glad my treatment does not depend on the prospect of learning this skill, and having to buy the special equipment required. Probably I could have learnt it if I had to do; but I'm not great at DIY and I'm glad I didn't have to.
Second, when I researched Mesochem there seemed to be some hoops you have to jump through to get the med's from them. For example, Alsdad, on this site, says of dealing with Mesochem: “...you have to provide a letter from a pharmacist confirming that they will encapsulate the API for you.” If this is still true, this alone would have stopped me buying from Mesochem - there's no way I could have got such a letter. Further I checked out another forum devoted to ways of accessing generic interferon-free hep c treatments, and on that forum there were numerous references to the need to tell Mesochem that you required the med's for research purposes. For example, a poster on that other forum says (and I hope I break no forum rules in quoting from another site) that Mesochem are “..only supposed to be shipping to other drug manufacturers and to researchers”. Now, if this is true, and I have no idea whether it is or not, then it put me off.
Third, the other thing that would have worried me about having the med's mailed to me is the possibility of a potential delay in having the med's delivered. Now very fortunately this doesn't appear to have happened to you, Jolie, because you tell us that your med's either were or are due to be (you do not make clear which) delivered promptly within an average 4 -5 days. But all I can say is that I have seen posts from a poster on another forum who complains of delays in delivery of their dac, mentioning a delay of 3 weeks, a lot longer than 4-5 average days you cite. Presumably that other poster used a supplier different from the ones you did. But by travelling to BD to collect the med's, having previously booked the med's, I was glad to avoid any angst of waiting at home - uncertain when the med's would arrive. Also, of course I had the pleasure of seeing another country which I had not previously visited, albeit briefly.
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Post by Alsdad on Nov 26, 2015 20:57:54 GMT
Good luck with the treatment Jolie. When are you starting? So you have two lots of Sof?
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Post by Alsdad on Nov 26, 2015 21:16:02 GMT
Thanks for the further explanations thurl. Just to address a few points:
Killthedragon and fixhepc are, to my knowledge, the only two online English lenguage forums where HCV generic DAAs and the obtaining of them can be discussed freely and withot censorship. Both forums have the same ideals, and we work together - I'm a moderator on fixhepc. Spreading information is absolutely crucial to the philosophy, and if that means linking to/quoting from other forums, so be it.
Mesochem and Rachel are in the business of making money, they really want to sell their product. But they don't want any nasty publicity, so it's necessary to play a little charade in order to give them some 'ass cover'. "thurl's Compounding Pharmacy Inc." on a nice letterhead with a few 'credentials' would have worked fine. You play the charade and you get the meds.
I suspect the 3 weeks delivery you've seen is from Dr Freeman's Buyers Club (which is for deliveries inside Australia). They buy in bulk from Mesochem, test, encapsulate and send out.
Anyway, you did it your way and got your meds quickly. And you shared your info. Great stuff! Everyone's a winner!
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Post by jolie on Nov 27, 2015 17:13:37 GMT
hi, hope everybody is well today,
thurl, I agree with you that it totally depends on person's ability & circumstances to make choices as to how obtain the generics. We're so very lucky we have at least 3 good choices, if not more here, thanks for Dr Freeman & Greg's & his team in India, the Bangladeshi's facilitators, as well as everyone else who shared their experiences on other forums as to how & where they got their meds. I originally had a plan to get everything with Greg;s support & I got the Sofo from India really fast only 4 days via DHL but there are huge delays to get generic Dac from Bangladesh, this was Greg's source so we decided to go via a different route where he was trying to help with getting the encapsulated Dac directly from Australain pharmacy instead. This has not worked out as yet, as apparently due to huge demand all the pharmacies in AU have now runed out of stock, so more waiting when they re-stock . So 3 weeks later I still don't have the Dac I need to go with my Sof.
My plan B was to order directly from Mesochem if plan A fails, yes I heard about the need for some papers, etc but I just ignored all that & wrote her a simple email asking for the quote on the quantities I needed. She answered back immediately & sent the bank details, I paid & she sent the meds next day. She never asked for anything I did not volunteer excess info. I got Fedex tracking & can see that my package posted 2 days ago is at Charles de Gaulle in Paris….& the delivery is this Monday, fingers crossed.
My reason for going via the mail order way is because I find travelling almost impossible due to debilitating fatigue, I live in a small village & have everything delivered here, as even driving to the nearest town has been too exhausting for me for months now. I turned into a hermit
Als, to answer your question, yes, I'll have 24 weeks worth of Sofo & probably 16 weeks worth of Dac for sure, a combination of Indian & Chinese brands. Hope this explosive "oriental" cocktail will exorcize the virus out of my body once & for all !
If Greg manages to get me another 12 weeks worth of Dac from Australia I'll be all set to do 20-24 weeks of tx, if not then I'll re-order from Rachel again in January.
I decided to go over the 12 weeks tx due to having difficult to treat Geno3, fibrosis F2/F3 & being tx experienced as simply cannot face to fail tx again this time, so this must work.
I hope to start tx 01/12. jolie xxxx
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Post by mgalbrai on Feb 26, 2016 18:45:15 GMT
2/26/16 update:
Price for Mesochem APIs 38g of sofosbuvir and 8g of ledipasvir: $860.00.
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